Hangouts — Enneagram Q&A with Katherine

In these 2+ hour Google Hangouts with Ben and Jonathon, I am asked a variety of questions about my experience with the Enneagram including questions about the origins of Tritype, my work with the Instinctual Stackings,  the missing pieces regarding the dissemination of the Enneagram,  Integration and Disintegration, your positive and negative identification with each instinct in your stacking. Great fun! 
Thank you Ben and Jonathan.

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The Innate Nature of Enneagram Type 4

On another page we were discusing the nature of sx 4... So I am including my response here.

Do 4s tend to mistype as Sx 4s at first?

Yes, I have found this to often be true...beginning in my 1995 research on the Instincts. Then, 18 months later, in April of 1996, I had the good fortune to attend Naranjo's first Enneagram Intensive in the US in Bolder, Colorado.

I had been teaching what had emerged in my findings in Instinctual Subtype workshops… and the sx 4s had completely related to the findings and their ability to have and call off ‘raw’ truthful and intense emotions.

Naranjo had moved ‘Reckless’ from sp 4 to sx 4 saying that sx 4s were ‘emotionally reckless’ whereas the sp 4s were more ‘self-contained and enduring’. And, that the sx 4, when triggered, could have intense "out of control" emotions that could make even an 8 back down. ;))

So, the sx 4’s ability for raw, outspoken emotional truth was confirmed by Naranjo’s teachings as well. Naranjo’s new teaching about sx 4 further validated what the sx 4s had shared in interviews for my research study and what they had revealed about their inner world.

Jack Labanauskas interviewed me regarding my experience of Naranjo's Intensive for Enneagram Monthly in 1996. The article is titled ‘Reflections on Type’. There are a lot of gems about the types from Naranjo in that article. It is available from Enneagram Monthly and on Enneagram.net.

In 1997, after two years of research on the 3 Enneagram Instinctual Types and 27 Subtypes, I shared my findings at the IEA Conference in Baltimore. In the presentation, after listing the study findings and describing the 27 combinations, I had 3 panels of exemplars for each instinct and all 9 types for each. In the interviews I asked each type to share what it meant to have their instinctual subtype.

This served to explained what it felt like to have that defense strategy. And, why for example, the sx4 is ‘reckless’ and has the words of competition and hate as their dominant words. Research also yielded that sx 4s felt that ‘idolatry’ was key as well as they seek their ideal in every situation and tend to idolize intimates and then when hurt, can denigrate and diminish them…sharing that both feelings co exist.

I laugh when sx 4s say I don’t use the word hate very often at all... and within minutes they will often say something like "Don't you hate it when ______ ". It is in their vocabulary, the water they swim in, so to speak.

I see these 3 Instinctual Types and 27 Subtypes as biological imperatives. We as a society need the 27 combinations to support each family, group, tribe, community, culture, country and so on. 
So if your defense strategy is sx4, you must find the way you hate. The sx4 is mobilized by 'angry envy' as it is the fire to their engine. They are a dynamic force and often mistaken for 8s. In contrast, the intensity of the 8 is solid and cold like concrete... it is immovable and resistant. It is only when the 8 is over the top that you see fiery anger. For the most part, when fixated, 8s believe that revenge is best served cold. ;).

The sx 4 is also a strong flavor. But they are liquid, emotional, mercurial and fiery. and as Naranjo said ... "The sx4 won't budge...even for the president, stating that they pay taxes and it is their road too." To contribute to the greater good, this defense strategy notices what is missing… even the tiniest thing will be noticed when absent. This is how we as a society can excel, become more individuated and possess the values that meet our ideals.

Every society needs someone that won’t budge for the president…someone that will say the emperor has no clothes…. someone that will hold to their emotional truth and seek that which is exquisite. The sx 4 has that role in society. They are fierce, competitive and intense seekers.

So, sx 4s will naturally feel disappointed when their defense strategy is on overdrive and is constantly finding what is missing in their lives… what is plain, ordinary and lacking in esthetics. The truth is that they find themselves the most painfully lacking. Their journey is to recognize when they are in fixation … and when to speak… and when their drive for beauty, perfection and emotional truth will not serve the greater good.

On the panel in my 1997 presentation, David was the poster child exemplar for the sx 4. True to expressing the high side of the sx 4, he was willing to share the raw, unedited truth of what it meant to have sx 4 as his primary defense strategy. It was so compelling and revealing that sx4s came up to me and to us throughout the rest of the conference and shared how much it meant to them to know that there were other people that felt the same way they did… and struggled with the emotional intensity.

They were relieved to have their gifts acknowledged and to understand more about their challenges. Until that panel, when they compared themselves to other 4s, they thought they were the 'bad' difficult, flawed, outspoken 4. When they had been with other 4s that did not have the sexual instinct they felt like they were too much… So they felt misunderstood by the other 4s and felt ashamed to mention their fiery intensity and emotional outbursts.

The reason for this is that until then, nothing had been written about the sx 4’s fiery emotional intensity. From the first books written in the late 80s to those written in the early 90s, 4s were described more in terms of the so 4 and sp 4. In the chapters on 4s, they were described as sad, shy and withdrawing.

This is what the sx 4 feels as well… at first…. but if the issue is about a mate or a strongly help passion, their fear of abandonment is triggered and they react with intense, angry emotions. We all know what happens if we feel intense angry emotions… imagine if this was your primary defense strategy. wink emoticon So, it was easy to see why sx 4s had concealed their fiery emotional reactivity. When triggered, they are feeling that they are not enough and all is lost. Afterward an outburst they feel intense shame. When they finally heard about this fierce intensity from other sx 4s they finally felt met and more understood.

What I learned from the sx 4s is that on the high side, they are fiercely protective of intimates and when inflamed will more than go the distance in service of those to whom they are intimately attached.

What was so key for me to learn in that first study was that the sx 4s felt that ‘everyone’ had the right to express thier individuality. And, if you have known and/or loved a sx 4, then you know how they can see someone’s uniqueness and individual gifts better than others. It is an amazing gift when they shine their light in someone’s direction. They see tiny nuances about people that most miss. They call off the beautiful and the ugly with the same ease. They are amazing troubadours that share their inner world and what makes us all human… and more specifically, our flaws and imperfections. They can make people feel truly seen. 
In fact, when coming from the high side, sx 4s are by far the most inclined to see what is innately human.

To enter the world of sx 4 in pain but calling off her emotional truth in a beautiful way, listen to Why by singer/songwriter Annie Lennox. 

©1995-2019 Katherine Chernick Fauvre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG7I4oniOyA

Typologies: Enneagram Type 8 Thinking vs. Feeling

I am enjoying reading the results of those that have participated in the Enneagram Tritype, Instinctual Type and Myers-Briggs Type study.

To have a current sense of the tests available for all of these categories I have taken many tests again in all of these systems. I am struck by how important it is to ask the right questions and enough questions to cover important variables.

I can easily see how some questions in MBTI perfectly match some Enneagram Types, Tritypes and/or Instinctual Types... and some of these possible types are entirely missed. For example, the questions written to ascertain if one is more introverted or extroverted are written primarily for the social instinct vs. self-preserving instinct… and there are very few if any questions that include the sexual/intimate instinct.

8 and the T vs. the F
Working with a great many 8s, I have found that 8s that are willing to explore the world of therapy, coaching or self-help do not really identify with or test with a distinct preference for the T or the F. When these 8s are with Ts they feel more passionate about their opinions and feel more F by comparison and when they are with Fs they feel more realistic and practical and feel more like T by comparison. This is true for me as well.

ENTP
Extravert(22%) iNtuitive(30%) Thinking(1%) Perceiving(67%)
You have slight preference of Extraversion over Introversion (22%)
You have moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (30%)
You have marginal or no preference of Thinking over Feeling (1%)
You have distinct preference of Perceiving over Judging (67%)

So, I come out as an ENTP... which is for the most part accurate but does not account for my compassion. Some tests will say ENXP. I have found that ENXP is the most accurate but it could be that I am just the playful, no nonsense ENFP 8. ;)

As an 8 I tend to see the questions as difficult because they are not in 8 speak. Most of the F questions are too sappy or saccharine for my language choices. I also find that the T questions are better but too indifferent and more self-preservation. I clearly care about people and enjoy working with them at a deep level but IMO that is simply the sx874.

Simply put, if one has empathy and will help people one will test as an F in most of the testing instruments. I have also found that 8s do not like the language use, questions or description for the ENFP. Having said that, there are many ENFP 8s that are therapists, coaches and body workers in the self-help field.

How do you as your EType, and/or Tritype, Instinctual Type relate to your Myers-Briggs Type? Are they complimentary or at odds with one another?

©1995-2019 Katherine Chernick Fauvre

What is the Enneagram Tritype?

Ok, for those of you that have asked about Tritype®...an intro…

Enneagram Tritypes ©1995-2019 Katherine Chernick Fauvre

The Enneagram Tritype® consists of one Enneagram Type in each center of intelligence: Head (567), Heart (234) and Gut (891). Although one of these three Enneagram Types is dominant, you also use the other two types in your Tritype in a consistent and preferred order.

20 years of research, hundreds of coaching sessions, tens of thousands of Enneacards Test results and multiple studies have demonstrated that identifying and understanding your Tritype can significantly enhance your journey of self-discovery.

The three types within your Tritype intersect, creating a unique defense strategy and focus of attention. This is your Tritype Archetype. Whatever the three types in your Tritype share in common will be amplified. This creates a more singular focus, which can be positive or negative depending on your level of health and emotional intelligence.

The high side of this intersection is that it gives your life direction, focus and purpose. The low side of this intersection is that it creates a blind spot, which can narrow your ability to accurately self-assess… and may keep you locked in self-defeating patterns.

Tritype explains the distinct differences of those sharing the same Enneagram Type. For example, the 874 is a fast-paced, optimistic, creative, and emotional type 8 whereas the 826 is a more dutiful, heroic, loyal and helpful type 8.

Additionally, Tritype explains why those sharing the same three Enneagram Types or Tritype have a natural affinity for one another. For example, the 126, 216 and 612 are all focused on people, doing what should be done, helping those in need and being supportive of others regardless of which type is dominant.

Most importantly, your Tritype combination identifies key aspects of your personality which, when understood, can illuminate your path to greater self-awareness and a more fulfilling life.

How the Tritype works
Although one of these three types in your Tritype is dominant, or your primary type, the other two types play a large role in your life. What is surprising is that these other two types are not always connected to your type by a wing or along the lines of connection (the lines connected to your primary Type).

For example, if you are a type 9 you may or may not have type 3 and/or type 6 as part of your Tritype. You could have a Tritype of 926 or 936 or 946 or 925, 927 and so on. Each Tritype combination creates a different expression of Enneagram type.

If you are an Enneagram type 4 you might have a Tritype of 468. This would mean you predominantly use type 4, however, you will also use the strategies of type 6 and the type 8. Your Enneagram type 4 would still be in charge. However, when the 4 strategies fail to produce results and all permutations (wings and lines of connections) of type 4 have been exhausted, you will then shift to use the dominant type in each of the other two centers to manage problems and create solutions.

If your primary type is 8, you might have a Tritype configuration of 874. The primary Enneagram type for you would be type 8, however, this Tritype combination indicates that you would most likely be a strong, positive person who seeks solutions (8), options (7) and meaning (4). What is fascinating is that if the strategy of type 8 fails to give you the desired results of overcoming obstacles, you would then employ the strategy of type 7 and then if needed type 4. These three types rapidly cascade into one another and continue cycling throughout the day.

Tritype Examples
The Tritype reveals the distinct differences of those sharing the same Enneagram Type. The Tritype also explains how individuals sharing the same three fixations may have more in common than those sharing the same Enneagram type.

For example, if you were an 874, you would have secondary strategies that are very different than an 826. The 874 is a fast paced creative, heartfelt and optimistic type 8 whereas the 826 is a more cynical, loyal, helpful and heroic type 8. Further, if you are the 874 type 8, you may relate to a 748 or 478 more than another type 8 that has a different Tritype.

Understanding the Tritype in practice
Just as with your primary Enneagram type you will experience the other types in your Tritype in both positive and negative ways.

To understand how this works in practice, if someone with a Tritype of 874, finds that taking charge like an 8 isn't working, they may try to lighten up or be positive like a 7, and if that doesn't work, may search for meaning like a 4. The 8 fear of being disempowered is driving the process. If the 8 still feels disempowered and unable to direct their circumstances the 874 may feel over-extended and scattered (7) and painfully lacking (4). So this person has used the strategies of three Enneagram Types, one from each of the three Enneagram Centers (Head-Heart-Gut), in a preferred order of 8-7-4.

Another example would be a 468. Here we have a more aggressive and reactive type 4 than say a 495, who would be more withdrawn, passive (9) and avoidant (5). Another example would be a 972. This would be the type 9 with a very rosy and positive outlook desiring easygoing relationships. A 953 would be the kind of 9 who is more intellectual (5), perfectionistic and focused on efficiency (3) with less of an emphasis on maintaining harmonious relationships than other 9s.

To learn more about Tritype, go here.

Instinctual Subtypes and Types: Self-Pres, Social, Sexual

Enneagram Instinctual Types
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Self Preserving
Self-preserving instinctual types are driven by the ongoing search for survival and well-being. Anything that could possibly damage, endanger, or exploit the self and/or the body is of concern. The focus of attention is subtly on "the self," "my body," "my world" and, "my resources and needs."

The primary desire is for survival which is manifested by a continual perceived quest for a sense of well being and for the "essentials" of life, such as: safety, security, food, shelter, clothing, comfort, protection, and resources. They tend to be maternal individuals that seek and offer or withhold nurturance.

The concerns of the self-preserving types involve issues of living and compromise - for example, "to be or not to be" or "how to be." The survival strategy places an intense emphasis on either caution or self-destruction. The focus is to aggressively go after what one needs and/or to defensively hold onto what one has.

The common theme statements reflect the attention to "self," such as "I am my body, therefore, what does my body need?" "How am I?" "How comfortably and successfully am I experiencing my body?" "What are my immediate physical needs and desires?"

The energy projected is described as "conserved energy" and is often experienced as "grounded," as if it were tightly contained around the body like a spiral coil. The energy is usually somber, heavy, and serious in nature, as if the person is attempting to function while carrying some great weight on his or her shoulders, and is thus conserving energy for later personal use.

The self-preserving types will "sacrifice for self" to insure survival. Rather than looking to the group or a mate to "solve problems," these types tend to "look inward" based upon an inherent recognition that "I'm on my own" and "I have to take care of myself."

Social/Anti-social
Social instinctual types are driven by the ongoing search for others, groups an/or community, akin to the herd instinct in animals, where there is safety and security in numbers. The focus of attention is on other as in "who is doing what and with whom," "my circle of friends," "the group" and "our greater world."

The primary desire is for others or groups, which is manifested by an imbalanced perceived need for people, recognition, popularity, honor, status, position and social acceptance. They tend to be paternal individuals that seek and suggest ways to be in the world and cooperate with or rebel against social norms. They may be social or anti-social.

The concerns of the social types involve issues of relating to others - for example, "to relate or not to relate" or "how to relate." The survival strategy places an intense emphasis on either sociability or unsociability. The focus is on tracking multiple others and whether are important or unimportant and if they are a potential friend or foe.

The common theme statements reflect an inclination to categorize oneself in terms of others, such as "I am my position with respect to others or society, therefore, what do I need to do to fit in?" "Who should I be with?" "Who am I with, are they important?" "How comfortably and successfully am I experiencing my group?" "How am I perceived by the others or the group?"

The energy projected is described as "split energy" and is often experienced as "scattered" and projected outward, appearing personable, superficial, and cursory in nature. It is imperative that "a good impression is made" and that "nothing important is missed."

The social types will "sacrifice for their extended family or group" to insure status. Rather than looking inward or to a mate for security and to "solve problems," these types tend to "look outward," based upon a belief that "my value is dependent upon how I am perceived by others, society and/or the group." "We can make it if we all cooperate and work together."

Sexual/One to One
Sexual instinctual types are driven by the ongoing search for closeness, intimacy, pair bonding, connection and one-to-one relationships. The drive is especially representative of the masculine and feminine energies: the very qualities that determine the strongest and most desirable of mates. The focus of attention is on desirability and pairing as in "the beloved", "my special friend" and "our intimate world."

The primary desire is for a special mate, which is manifested by an imbalanced perceived need for connection, wholeness, affinity, and closeness in a continual search for "the other half." They tend to be highly charged and charismatic individuals that seek to create or reject intimacy.

The concerns of the sexual types involve issues of intimacy - for example, "to be intimate or not to be intimate" or "how to be intimate." The survival strategy places an intense emphasis on attraction and repulsion, with either abstinence or promiscuity. The focus is on developing and maintaining intimacy and the bond needed or a secure attachment.

The common theme statements reflect an inclination to define oneself in terms of the mate and the intimate relationship, such as " I am my intimate relationship, therefore, what does my relationship need?" "Who am I to you? " "What do I mean to my special other?" "How connected am I to my intimates?" "How comfortably and successfully am I experiencing my intimate relationship?" "Are we deeply bonded?" "How am I perceived by my intimate partner?"

The energy projected is described as "high energy" and is often experienced as "intense" and laser-like, appearing to be intently focused, and is usually playful and light, yet penetrating in nature. There is a sense of energy and vibration, the search for the mate, the need to display their strength and beauty, like the peacock showing its feathers.

The sexual types will "sacrifice for the relationship" to insure connection. Rather than looking inward or to the group for security to "solve the problem," these types tend to "look to the mate," based upon a belief that, "I cannot be whole and complete unless I find my other half." "It is you and me against the world. "

How is this true for you?

Enneagram Archetypes vs Stereotypes and our First Impressions

I have been working on my presentation "Archetypes and Stereotypes" for the upcoming IEA conference... as you might imagine, my 8 lust wants to say everything and share 400 slides in just a 2 hour time slot.... and in high speed like a 7...including the meaning and significance like the 4...in an up close and personal manner like the sx.

I posted this in my personal thread by accident...and it is in Enneagram Daily but thought I would share it here. Someone tearily asked if it was a trick question....Haha….no, not a trick question.... but could be of course, you never know with an 874;))

These two women share the same facial archetype and are often mistaken for one another.... Someone’s visual archetype (facial features and body type) are two of 12 key points I look at when evaluating someone's potential instinctual type and tritype (as well as MBTI, body language and core energetic character structure, etc). In other words, what we can see and observe.

Most of us begin with an immediate first impression of someone… As a child, I was curious if others also felt an immediate impression of people and made a quick decision about what a type of person they may be. And, I wondered how consciously and quickly they formed a first impression. Oh and yes, my family and my friends did wonder why I was always examining similarities and differences between people… now they are just used to it… ;)

At the age of 7, in in 1960, I began my study of human nature with the little Dell books that could be found on any subject in the magazine section or checkout counter in most drugstores and grocery stores.

Later, in the 1970s, I learned of research that suggested a first impression is made within the first 20 seconds of seeing someone and rarely, if ever changes. Then, later research suggested 7 seconds and then 2 seconds. Recent studies by Princeton researchers suggest that a first impression is made in 1/10 of a second... I have always found this to be true... and believe it may be even faster. It is similar to Malcolm Gladwell's theory of the “blink” test from his book Blink (the power of thinking without thinking).

I also devoured documentaries that explained the nuances of brain function for idiots… ;)) I was intrigued as to what governed and determined which immediate action needed to take place first to insure survival… I was surprised to learn that the brain makes and acts on assumptions. These assumptions are biological imperatives, as the brain must make snap decisions to increase our odds of survival when faced with eminent danger. So in essence, the short story is that our brain guesses… and/or lies to improve our chances of survival (longer story). Simply put, our brain reacts to stimuli and at first glance, it can’t distinguish between a snake and something that looks like a snake… so it pumps adrenaline, and basically says “danger!” until additional data says the coast is clear… ;) Not a snake but rather a rope in an 'S' shape.

So, it would stand to reason that we as a species would need to make snap judgments as to whether or not someone is familiar to us or a stranger….and, if a stranger, are they a threat to us? Our brain would rapidly sort though images and emotional experiences to determine if someone might be a threat....a fellow tribe member that would feed us or an enemy tribe that would harm us or eat us... ;)).

So, if these two women are so similar in appearance, the question that would naturally arise is “Are they the same Enneagram type?” If we consider stereotypes, our answer (most likely unconsciously) would be yes…. But are they truly the same type? If we look further, perhaps we will confirm they are or we may discover they are not.

I would propose in round numbers that roughly 80% of the time, those with so many visual similarities would share the same type and 20% of the time they would not. And as many of you already know, I do love to explore the 20% that are more atypical… I then, along with other points of consideration, listen for language use and observe micro expressions and body language to have a more complete picture of someone’s potential tritype and instinctual type.

Our snap judgments and resulting assumptions create our first impression (and by extension our view of typing), This was the focus of my IEA presentation in 2013. I will explore, compare and contrast both archetypes and stereotypes and how they influence our opinion of someone’s potential type. So, as fellow enthusiasts, I would love to know your thoughts.

Enneagram Talk Styles

Enneastyle talk styles was one of my early studies in 1995. This study was after I had learned a great deal about the most common words used by the 9 Enneagram types to describe themselves to a total stranger. From this initial group of words, I learned even more about the talk styles. In person, however, you see gestures as well. Online you will notice if someone tends to say they are a skeptic, talks about being cautious or cautions others or says "beware of ________", (6) vs someone that is diligent and tends to say they are responsible, talks about improvement, shoulds, shouldn'ts, and oughts (1).

I would love your feedback as to how you experience your talk style and if pertinent you tritype talk style.... additions?

1 Teaching, Moralizing, Educating
2 Flattering, Advising, Supporting
3 Wooing, Promoting, Self-Promoting
4 Lamenting, Sad Stories, Personalizing
5 Explaining, Systemizing, Treatises
6 Cautioning, Questioning, Doubting, Group Thought
7 Anecdotes, Story-telling, Sarcasm
8 Imperatives, Unmasking, Teasing
9 Monotonous, Sagas, Pleasantries

What Enneagram Type was Hitler?

This was my answer to Hitler's potential Tritype from a few years ago.    
Potential Enneagram Type for Hitler… is but always open to exploration.... you may disagree with my suggestion for his type and tritype®. It is only an educated guess. ☺

I have studied WWII leaders since I was 12. I was especially fascinated with what would cause someone to think, feel and act the way Hitler did.... His rise to power after being an insecure, failed artist, of course... And, his attachment to his mother and  why he blamed her Jewish doctor for her death from cancer. His obsession with aesthetics… Even more, I was intrigued by his obsession with Wagner's operas from the age of 12. His suffering (real but I am noting his identification with the suffering), which he mentions in his book Mein Kampf (My Struggle) that he is said to have dictated to his deputy, Rudolph Hess while in prison. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Kampf. His bully tactics as a brown shirt, that landed him in jail. His impassioned, theatric speeches with the distinct ‘4ish’ content and delivery… the way he worked German crowds into an emotional frenzy focusing on Germans as entitled, superior and elite people that had been wronged. His identification with the power of Germany when he was Austrian, so much so, that he as soon as he could he annexed Austria to Germany when he came to power. His passion for art and architecture as it represented his idealized image of being superior and elite…. and his identification with power, pomp and circumstance. His intense longing… His complex relationships… including his push-pull attachment to Eva Braun… His fascination with melancholy, depression and suicide. His unpredictable emotional rages, of course! That he was a staunch vegetarian and very kind to animals, an animal activist of sorts with those around him, yet... but fly into daily vicious tirades and most importantly, that he attempted to systematically (with the organization skills of Himmler) tried to wipe out his view of aesthetic imperfections in Germany…. and his extremely elitist view for the future of mankind... the ‘Aryan Race’… with a set of standards created by him with the help of Himmler that Hitler himself did not meet.

These particular dichotomies, to me, are often present in type 4. When I attended Naranjo's first Enneagram intensive in 1996, I learned that Naranjo said that he initially taught that Hitler was a 6 . But, that he changed his mind when he reviewed tapes of Hitler’s passionate intensity as a public speaker… and saw his style and speeches to be those of the of a sexual 4. Naranjo stated that the sexual 4s had always confused him and that he had not fully understood them until 1996. He said he came to learn that the sexual 4 has "angry envy" and a sense of entitlement with a fiery passion for protest… that they will diminish others to make themselves feel ‘bigger’ when they feel inadequate, defective or flawed… That when they are fixated, they have a stance of “I know more than you do and I am correct.” He said he didn't know how he could have missed sexual 4 for Hitler.

He explained that the sexual 4 had intensity, sensitivity, emotional anxiety and 8-like tendencies…however, the sexual 4 is emotional and becomes heated and more ‘oral’ (as in verbally impassioned and critical) when fixated whereas the sexual 8 is unemotional, deliberate, focused and intimidating and becomes slower, myopic, emotionally flat, stony and indifferent when fixated.

After studying the leaders of WWI and WWII, and with the current data now available on Hitler, I have to agree with Naranjo. I would also suggest that Hitler was the sx/so or so/sx 468. He could be 461 of course, but I feel his bully tactics as a brown shirt were more the way the narcissistic sx/so 46 with 8 last in the tritype is and that the so/sp 6, 1 and 3 influence in Hitler's Germany most likely came from Himmler. Comments welcome… ;)

Errors in the Transmission of the Enneagram: Wing Types and Lines of Connection

Wing Types and Lines of Connection

The wing types and lines of connection are essential as the enneagram is a dynamic trialectic system.

One of the largest pieces of misinformation on the Enneagram was the teaching that we move to the lines of connection in integration/disintegration or stress/security. The side note here is that Naranjo stated in 1996 that he was misquoted when teaching his hypothesis on the arrows in a early SAT (Seekers After Truth) group in the 1970s. This misquote went around the world. He corrected it in his first Enneagram Intensive in Bolder Colorado in 1996 stating he never meant to suggest that you move to one line positively (integration or security) and the other negatively (disintegrate/stress) but rather that you move to both lines of connection all of the time. He taught about the wings as well...that your type is simply the tension between your two wings.

I researched this with clients and found it to be true. I then met David and he found this pattern in 1996 separate from knowing me or Naranjo's teachings. Together, we developed it further through research with clients and call it Wing Theory.

For example, as a 5 with the 549 tritype, we found as a 5 you are trying to individuate and be a unique individual (4) while simultaneously trying to match and be accepted by your peers (6).... Social situations are times of great uncertainty so the 549 chooses to stand back and observe before attempting to join but always feels that they didn't get the same rule book on social relating that others did. So, the 5 feels trapped and struggles with taking action and initiating conversation.

With Wing Theory, you can break up the this pattern by moving to the high side of your lines of connection. The 5 line to the high side of 7 gives new possibilities, ease and right work and the high side of the 7 line to 8 gives confidence, action and higher truth.

We all have access to all 9 types but the question is when and how, and in what order? When we move to our lines of connection we do not become those types as our dominant type remains in charge... but rather we pick up the qualities of the type in our line of connection manifesting the law of 3.

The key is the "specialty" or focus of attention created by the intersection of the 3 types in the Tritype. With 459 they all concur that it is essential to stand back and be reflective and introspective before engaging with others. The overall desire of the 459 Tritype is for others to move towards them in social situations and make them feel more comfortable sharing as they feel inhibited and do not jump into conversations. The false belief is that others are more at ease with social relating. What is often missed is that many Tritypes move towards others and engage in conversation because they themselves feel so ill at ease if they don't....and sometimes they find they are so nervous they cannot stop talking... especially the extroverted social 6.

Enneagram Typings and Mistypings: Oprah Type 2 or 3?

Assessing the potential types, instincts and tritypes of celebrities is always intriguing. Usually, once we have learned how to type, most of us agree on a subject’s potential type...but not always. Some celebrities can show aspects of 2 types. That is why we find it important to listen to the lexicon and vocabulary used, the visual archetype and micro expressions.

I often receive questions about typing a celebrity like this one. We will never know with 100% certainty but there are aspects and clues we can pay attention to. It is always an opportunity to explore what constitutes type. We can examine behaviors for clues but the motivation is what indicates type.

On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:52 PM, client wrote:
Client: Why do some 'Enneagram people' refer to Oprah Winfrey as mainly a 3 and others say that she is a 2?
Katherine: Some of her best characteristics are 3ish, for example the empire builder... and other’s are 2ish, for example talking about sad topics and her generous giveaways.

The case for type 3: I agree with most of your people (or all, the ones I know) on www.katherinefauvre.com Oprah Winfrey's confidence too is more Gutsy to be a 2.

Katherine's mini response:
Hi ....
Oprah can be typed in two different ways...the 'social' 3w2 with the 369 or 379 Tritype or she could be the 2w3, 269 or 279 Tritype, depending on how Type 2 is defined, she can appear to be 2ish. The key is the 'social' need for prestige and a world stage and the 3 need to stand out and be the best--bigger, better and success through appearances vs the the 2 need to be needed with a false sense of abundance. She is not sticky, being overly personal and lingering on her giving, she is driven, quick and ambitious. Yes, she is kindhearted and does give but it is in "service" of her goal and a reflection of her dominant social instinct. She "acts" sensitive rather than being identified with it. 

Focusing on being the best is a hallmark of 3. Generosity is a hallmark of 2.

Oprah is a great example of how typing can be tricky at times. And, I am still open to Oprah being a social 2 or social 3. What have others's noticed?

Introverted Sx 8w9 with the 846 Tritype®

Introverted Sx 8w9 with the 846 tritype. Recently, I was working with an introverted, priest, sx 846 with the oral character structure. She is a therapist that works in the prison system. It is a tough job but requires compassion. Her combination is somewhat atypical for the 8. It reminded me that I wanted to explain that even though the 846 tritype is reactive....the 8 with 4 is always a softer 8. The 836 is the most intense and 8ish, then the next tough combination is 837, then the 835. Yes, the 468 is the most intense 4...but the 648 is second to the 638 in reactivity. So the 4 in the 468 makes it appear more 8ish but it is emotional intensity that tends to personalize whereas the 846 is a softer 8 and makes it appear more 4ish but they do not personalize as the lead type is 8. Do we have these tritypes that wish to share further?

©Katherine Chernick Fauvre 1995-2019

Enneagram Typing by Traits vs Gestalt

I recently answered a question about typing.... Below is my response to the following question:

Question:
"Should I give more weight to the number of traits a person has of one type over another? Also, what should I do when that person is tied with 6 traits of one type and 6 of another?"

My answer:
I have found that most of us will see what we are looking for...and what we can identify. The question is, can we see what others see as well... and more importantly, can we remain open to and integrate additional data that may not match our view and/or hypothesis?

I find this to be somewhat difficult for most of us to do as we work from what we know… our own database, our education on the subject and our own personal experiences. This is the data with which we are the most familiar and trust the most.

IMO, this is why, for me, the ‘Gestalt’ of typing becomes more important than the sum of the individual traits. The details are very important of course, especially in the assessment process, but adding and subtracting details can often lead us away from the overall impression and energy present.

I know this is 8 speak and gut type speak versus head type speak, etc… but in the end, I find that when it comes to identifying nuances of type, it helps if we learn everything we can on the types (or any subject for that matter), never stop learning, become educated on the types from diverse perspectives, use multiple methods and assessment tools, and gather real world experiences of the types… Then, after that, I find it is best to go with the ‘Gestalt’ ….for with respect to the nuances of typing, the whole appears to be far greater than the sum of its parts.

©Katherine Chernick Fauvre 1999-2019

Tips on typing the 6 with the 368 Tritype®

I have been asked how to identify the counter-phobic 6 that appears so 8ish and has the 368 Tritype.

Tips on accurately typing the 6 with the 368 Tritype
©2013 Katherine Chernick Fauvre

The 368 Tritype is one of the more complex and misunderstood Tritypes. It is easy to identify this Tritype as the focus of attention is very direct but determining which type is in the lead can be difficult. The 368, in any order, will produce a focused and efficient (3), provocative and questioning (6), confrontational and protective (8) defense strategy. This intersection of 3, 6 and 8 will create a very loyal, driven, strong-willed, and justice-seeking individual. This sounds very much they way the 8 is often described. So, understandably, the 3 and 6 with the 368 Tritype will frequently mistype as the 8. Eventually, the 3 will see that they lead with 3 because of their need to be seen as a successful person. With the 6, it is more difficult as so many of the counter-phobic (cp6) traits and behaviors can appear to be 8-like at first glance.

The cp6s are the mystery, wrapped in a riddle of opposing and contradictory qualities. They can be sensitive, reactive, questioning, opinionated and/or challenging one minute only to back pedal, make nice and concede the next. Because of these diverse qualities, they will often mistype as all of the other types before they recognize that they are the 6. It is a rare 6 that will type as the 6 in testing instruments. Most frequently, they will mistype as the 2, 4, 1, and 8. For example, if they are introverted they will mistype as the 5, if they are emotional they will mistype as the 4, if they are responsible they will mistype as the 1, and if they are rebellious they will mistype as an 8, and so on.

I have found that even though the 6 may mistype as other types initially, they will accurately identify one or two of the actual types in their Tritype. They will simply identify with one of the other types in their Tritype even though it is not their primary type. The softer, more phobic 6 will generally have the 9 in the Tritype and the stronger more reactive counter-phobic (cp6) will usually have the 8 the Tritype.

So, the cp683 or cp638 when combined with the two assertive, results-driven types of 3 and 8 will be very aggressive and naturally mistype as the 8. The reason for this is that the 368 Tritype is the most confrontational and protective Tritype. They are also very focused and fierce. If this Tritype has the social instinct, the focus on fighting for truth and justice in the service of others will be amplified.

Many ‘special forces’ warriors are the 638 Tritype. Special forces, or special operations forces are military units trained to perform unconventional missions that require teamwork. The 368 Tritype is well suited for this type of work as they often possesses the ability to develop mind over matter and work as a part of a cohesive team. They also make great debaters, trial attorneys, emergency services personnel, policemen, firefighters, and social workers.

So, to accurately determine the lead type with the 368 Tritype, it is very important to listen to the language the 368 uses, pay attention to the expressions they make and track their body language.

The 368 or 386 will often use sports metaphors like, “I am a winner” or see themselves as a “lean machine”, or frequently say they or you should “just do it.” They are hard workers. They will focus on achieving their personal best and developing a winning image. They have very little patience for whiners and are able to push their limits to acquire the skills they need to be a star. They will talk about their achievements and successes and may have a somewhat machine-like, robotic efficiency to everything they do. They usually embody the role they wish to possess and become the ideal exemplar. The energy is in the eyes and the chest region. They track you tracking them. They are sensitive to expectations and usually have practiced skills of looking attentive but are often distant and focused on what they need to do to be seen as valuable in your eyes.

The 638 or 683 will want to protect others from being mislead by unsavory characters and/or fear for those they perceive as a target or unprotected. So, they will warn and caution others, cite authorities to prove their point of view and seek “worthy” authorities they can respect. They can speak in a way that sows the seeds of doubt. They will focus on what is fair and just and pay attention to ways they can protect the everyman. They will be authoritarian and challenge authorities they fear will mislead others. The energy is in and around the head. They will have many facial expressions that rapidly change. You can see this along the brow bone and in the eyes. If they have learned mind over matter, they may reduce the rapid change of expression with a mask-like appearance of strength and fierceness.

The 863 or 836 will use war metaphors and will take charge to ensure justice. They are the justice-maker and become their own authority. They are the same in and out of the public eye. They do not try to impress like the 368 or 386. Nor do they do not try to prove anything to anyone, nor do they cite authorities or challenge other authorities like the 638 and 683. They are the authority. They may fact check, but as people of action, they do not like pretenses or care about having a good image like the 368 and 386 or ‘heady’ debates they way the 638 and 683 does. With the 836 and 863 what you see is truly what you get. They are action-oriented people with a strong sense of self-defined justice. They will often exhibit a tender side and use ‘might’ to make right to protect the underdog, the weak, the vulnerable, the downtrodden and/or the underrepresented. They are steady and very consistent in their nonchalant yet intimidating stance of defiance. The energy is the lower region of the belly. If they think something is ‘bull’ they will often turn their nose up in disgust with their lips turned down. Their expression is unwavering and their intimidation is often unspoken.

©Katherine Chernick Fauvre 1995-2019

The 358 Tritype Archetype

The 358 Tritype Archetype, The Solution Master, includes the 358, 385, 538, 583, 835 and 853. This Tritype is a dynamic achiever and power broker, but is also often misunderstood.

From the outside, the 358 Tritype may seem like a brash, confident and success driven achiever that does not suffer fools gladly. They can appear to be tough-minded individuals that can easily call a spade a spade, but can also come across as stony and insensitive.

This is true in part because the 358s are street-wise and believe in the school of hard knocks. They think that one learns the most by doing, and they think that the best lessons in life are learned by having to do things the hard way.

The 358 is known for being strategically brilliant but also for being blunt and to the point. Their inner drive is to succeed and conquer. They do this by using a mind over matter approach to life and their innate ability to quickly size up the competition or situation at hand. They begin by setting their sights on something that is of interest to them and then developing and executing the plans needed to acquire it. They achieve their goals by employing foresight, strategic planning and step-by-step analysis.

538’s are known for being impersonal and unemotional. Yet the truth is everything is very personal for them. They see life as one giant chess game that they intend to win through mastery.

But that is only part of the story. They succeed not because they do not have emotions, but rather because they are not limited by emotions. The 358 can separate their emotions from any issue at hand, which can at times be confusing to some of the more tender-hearted Tritypes like the 269, 379, or 469, all of whom use their emotions to make decisions. In fact, the 358 Tritype believes that emotions confuse and limit, only serving to slow them down.

358s focus on the long game and have very little use for ignorance. They are demanding of themselves and others. They are natural entrepreneurs and generally achieve whatever they set out to do. They seek and can readily identify the competitive advantage in any area of life, whether in business, sports or love. They will always have or will readily develop a strategy for success.

Their main focus in life is to achieve the realization of their ambitions. They do this by enduring and overcoming adversity. They never give up and do not back down or give in. Setbacks become fuel for future endeavors. Failures pave the way for greater successes.

They are no nonsense people that value experience over titles or degrees. They are extremely hard workers and very self-motivated. They can be seen as work-a-holics, but they truly love whatever they do or they would stop doing it. They are what they achieve.

Another important part of the story is that the 358s are actually thinkers and doers rather than feelers. Underneath their logical solution mastery is a tender-hearted person that manages distress by doing something to fix a problem rather than being trapped in what feels like illogical emotional chaos. The truth is that the 358 is uncomfortable with emotions; both their own emotions and the emotions of others. This is because they value data and information and fail to see the data and information that emotions provide.

358s have a defense strategy that survives by learning from their experiences so that they can succeed the next time they face the same problem. Emotionally charged experiences that result in feelings of shame and humiliation leave the strongest impressions. As a result, these are the areas of life that the 358s wish to conqueror first. And these are the first lessons the 358s want to teach loved ones.

358s do not want anyone they care about to suffer or be disadvantaged because their loved one is mired in an emotional crisis or emotional paralysis. They vividly remember the times they felt debilitated because their own emotions got in the way of affirmative action. As a result, 358s prefer the power that comes from action and mental constructs even at the expense of their emotions. They are naturally more adept at using their will center and mental center. They see their ability to go into action and use a mind over matter approach to life as much more reliable than the inconstancy of the heart. They prefer the world of logic, thoughts, actions and willfulness, over the world of feelings and emotions. Instead of offering sympathy, they offer strategies.

They respect those that overcome obstacles and they admire those that develop the confidence that ensues as a result of overcoming adversity. They want their loved ones to learn how to provide for themselves so that they will have the confidence and know-how that comes from succeeding by learning from failures. They show love by teaching them how to provide for themselves and/or by providing resources for those in their circle of care rather than offering sentiment. But more specifically, they demonstrate love by teaching loved ones how to survive and make it on their own not matter what life throws at them.

You can learn more about Tritype in the upcoming Enneagram Tritype Online Master Class beginning May 15th by clicking here.

Mistyping Sexual 4s as 8s

Sexual 4s mistyping as an 8 is a common one because both the 8 and the 4 are emotionally intense. One intriguing insight that helps to clear up this common mistyping is that the Sexual 4 can be "counter-envious" with 8-like tendencies.

Claudio Naranjo described the Sexual 4 as often appearing "more 8 than an 8." This sexual 4 is in denial of envy, is self-confident, claims position, and knows his or her own worth ("I deserve it").

Moreover, this 4 can be cannibalistic, overstep boundaries, and diminish others to make the self bigger and to prove one right. This sx4 is extremely emotional, passionate and assertive. They express their 'passion for protest' and their viewpoints in an overtly emotional manner. This intensity and appearance of confidence, seems to be 8ish but actually hides the 4 fear of abandonment, which is at the root of the outburst.

The sexual 4 becomes emotionally demanding whereas the sexual 8 becomes unemotional and commanding. This is because the 4 is emotionally dependent as a means of survival, demanding the symbolic 'good mother' whereas the 8 detaches as means of survival and goes it alone.

The sexual 4 values raw authenticity at all costs and throws caution to the wind in the moment of intense emotional distress. In contrast, the 8 backs away from frequent emotional displays as the 8 sees such displays as a sign of weakness and as such, disempowering. The 8 seeks to control their world and reputation. So, the 8 is more likely to adopt a stance of indifference and "my way or the highway", hitting the road running and hiding in open spaces.

A great example of the Sexual 4 is Al Pacino's character in Scent of a Woman.

©1995-2019 Katherine Chernick Fauvre

More detail on the 6w7 639 Tritype and its Instinctual Types and Subtypes

I promised a long time ago to say more about the 6w7 639 Tritype.

The 639 Tritype is the primary Tritype and the most amenable and adaptable of the 27. This Tritype includes the core type of each center of intelligence. The core of each center is seeking to balance the opposites within each center to create resolution. The core of each center is usually out of touch with the focus of their respective center and tend to be caught in the dance of opposites created by the opposing defense strategies of the wings in each center. So the 6 as the center of the head triad struggles to trust themselves and their own inner guidance. They oscillate between feeling they need to be an expert about something or feeling they need to know a little about everything to feel safe.

The 3 is trying to manage the overall fear of being ignored, the 6 is trying to manage the fear of fear itself and chaos and the 9 is trying to manage the fear of being overlooked and unimportant. Together, the focus is on creating, restoring and maintaining peaceful relating.

If your Tritype is the 369 it reinforces the primary issues. As a result, neutralizing conflict is a primary concern.

The 7 wing gives the 6 a lighter touch and a desire to manage stress with quick witted, often self-deprecating humor. So, the 6w7 with the 639 is the friendly boy or girl next door that wants to engage with others as a means of survival.

This strategy is true even if the person is shy. And, the extroverted 639 still feels cautious and/or has doubts but the extraversion makes it easier to bridge their shyness by saying something funny and/or witty. The introverted 639 uses their shy smile to disarm and engage others.

The Self Preserving 639
The self-preserving 639 is preoccupied with their physical needs. They focus on their sense of security and what will keep them feeling safe, nurtured, and comfortable. They tend to worry about everything associated with their essential needs, focusing on the demands of their home, job, pension, and family, etc.

Being disarming and friendly are tools of the trade for the self-preserving 6. And a friendly, and socially acceptable partner may be considered just as important as a good job as both reinforce that they have what they need in times of uncertainty. As such, they monitor their physical needs and resources to gage if they are safe and secure. To maintain a sense of well being they may also track the physical needs of their designated other(s). This can be exhausting and feel difficult to manage so they often keep their world small, letting in only one person or a trusted few.

The Social 639
The social 639 is preoccupied with their place or position within the group(s) of their choosing. Ideally, their group needs to be considered socially acceptable and their partner needs to be considered friendly and successful to insure and maintain the security that comes from status.

They focus on being dutiful and supportive to the people, beliefs, values and/or creeds they have chosen to align with. As such, they monitor who is doing what with whom and whether or not feel included and secure. To maintain their security they seek a role or position within their group(s) and family systems to insure they have others that will come to their aid should they need it. They see themselves as dedicated and loyal to the people in their lives. They instinctively shape shift and become what their others need in order to be deemed worthy of admiration and protection.

The Sexual 639
The sexual 639 is preoccupied with selecting and/or being a desirable and irresistible alpha mate. They are more intense and counter-phobic than the self-preserving and social 6. They seek intensity and chemistry in their intimate relationships and tend to push the edge in whatever they do. They manage their fears and anxiety by jumping into situations that cause distress proving to themselves that they are strong enough to manage whatever feels threatening. They can move from fear to action in nano seconds when they have already projected a worst-case scenario and have prepared for it. As a result they may not identify with having fear.

The sexual 639 focuses on having and being strong enough and/or beautiful enough to attract a desirable mate that will stand beside them and protect them when they feel insecure. Strength may mean physical strength and beauty or can be defined as someone that is extremely smart and competent. Ideally, they want their mate and close friends to be extraordinary in some way they feel they are not. As such, they may choose a mate that they think is smarter than most so that they feel they have all of their bases covered. To that end, they adapt to what their mate or partners want to insure they have their special someone that will stand together with them against an uncertain world.

©1995-2019 Katherine Chernick Fauvre

12 Tips for Typing

Understanding one’s Enneagram Type, Tritype and Instinctual Subtype can dramatically increase one’s ability to critically self-assess. With awareness, one can apply the wisdom of these insights and can create the opportunity for radical change and transformation.

People new to the Enneagram love to discover the Enneagram Types of their friends, family members and co-workers. Initially, one may mistype themselves or others. This happens for a number of reasons. Knowing what to look for can help to increase the possibility of accurately typing one’s self and others.

1 Behavior vs Motivation
First and foremost, the Enneagram is a model of motivation and NOT behavior. It is not what one does, but rather why one does what they do that is important when considering one’s dominant Enneagram Type. Looking at behavior alone will lead one astray much of the time. One needs to examine multiple factors when determining type, including: language use, energy, micro expressions, gestures, posture, carriage, tone, archetype, and whenever possible interviews.

2 Intuitive Hit Gut Reaction
When typing 'instantly' we are doing the 'blink' test as described in Malcolm Gladwell's book, Blink. It is often accurate but sometimes it is not. As cool as it would be to type someone instantly, it is just not possible. Soon, computer software will be able to analyze facial features and movements and be able to do it. Until that time, we need to examine multiple factors to confirm type including: language use, focus, body type, posture, facial features, energy, archetype, and micro expressions.

3 Self- Awareness
One’s self-image does not always include all aspects of one’s personality. Many of us see ourselves as we feel we would like to be, should be or need to be, rather than as we actually are. To confirm one’s dominant Enneagram Type, Tritype and Instinctual Type with the greatest degree of certainty, one needs to possess or develop critical self-awareness. This generally needs introspection as well as feedback from others.

4 Testing Instruments
Testing instruments are helpful indicators of one’s potential Enneagram Type but instruments are only as accurate as an individual’s ability to self-assess. Testing accurately is especially difficult for Types 6 and Type 9, as they tend to see themselves and others in terms of behaviors and situations rather than motivations. This is an important aspect of their defense strategies. Both seek balance, identify with other points of view and evade anything perceived to be limiting.

5 Tritype When one first learns about the Enneagram, one will often relate to a few Enneagram types, often identifying some of the types in one’s Tritype: the dominant type in each center of intelligence, head (567), heart (234) and gut (891). One is motivated by the needs and concerns of all three types in their Tritype. In the beginning, some may identify with one of the types in their Tritype more than the other types. It may or may not be their dominant type. It can take time to clarify which type is dominant.

6 Instinctual Subtype
Often, one can mistype due to common look-a-likes. The three Instinctual Types: self-preservation (security), social (belonging), and sexual (intimacy) can appear similar to the three centers of intelligence: gut (891), head (567) and heart (234).

The Instinctual Types are the more primitive aspects of personality. Sometimes one’s instinct can be so dominant that it is hard to see which Enneagram Type is dominant. For example, sexual subtypes can appear 4ish or like heart types (234), self-preserving subtypes can appear 6ish or like gut types (891) and social subtypes can appear 1ish or like head types (567).

7 Lexicon Language Use
22 years of research has revealed that each Enneagram Type, Tritype and Instinctual Type speaks in its own lexicon. One will describe events and people in the language of their primary Type, Tritype and Instinct. For Example, the 7 will be playful and talk about what is fun, interesting and exciting whereas the 6 will caution others and focus on certainty, possible threats, and what can go wrong.

8 Micro Expressions and Movements
How one looks and expresses themselves can give important clues as to one’s Enneagram Type. Micro expressions can help to distinguish common look-a-likes if we consider one’s use of the 7 primary emotions and resulting micro expressions: anger, contempt, disgust, fear, sadness, surprise, and happiness. Each Enneagram Type tends to overuse some micro expressions more than other micro expressions. For example, the 1, 4 and 7 all overuse the micro expression of contempt whereas the 6 overuses the micro expressions of fear and surprise.

Some combinations are especially confusing. For example, gut (891) types that have the sexual instinct are often confused with heart (234) types. However, if you examine micro expressions and micro movements, it is easier to see important clues that further suggest type.

For example, generally speaking, the sexual 8 eyes are piercing and feral with the corners of the mouth turned down whereas the social 2 eyes are sore, liquid, attentive, and tracking with the corners of the mouth turned up.

The energy of the head types (567) is excitable and erratic whereas the energy of the gut (891) types is slower and more measured. The tone of the heart types (234) is light and melodic whereas the tone of the gut (891) types is more monotone.

9 Archetypes
There are 7 basic visual archetypes in each type: Priest, Server, Artisan, Sage, King, Warrior and Scholar. A primary archetype was assigned to many of the Enneagram Types and has become the stereotype. If an individual has the same archetype as the stereotype of their respective type, they are much easier to identify. This happens about 80% of the time. The other 20% are atypical and one must observe the lexicon use and micro expressions of the individual to confirm type.

For Example, Tom Cruise is a Priest archetype and the Priest is the stereotype of sexual 3. So, most experts agree that he is a 3. Russell Crow is the Warrior archetype and the Warrior is the stereotype of 8, so, most agree that he is an 8. An atypical example of archetype is Kate Hudson. She is a sexual 7 with the Server/Sage archetype. The expected archetype for sexual 7 is the Sage/Priest.

10 Psychological Health

Being psychologically healthy and spiritually aware always makes it more difficult to type someone by behavior. Anyone can behave well or badly. Again, it is not what we do but why we do it that determines someone’s type. That is why it is essential to type by motivations and core fears rather than behaviors. An individual’s education, spiritual or psychological development does not matter if you focus on what motivates someone.

11 MBTI
I would also add one's MBTI... There are always exceptions. In general, the assertive types are 8, 7 and 3 but they can be introverted which can make typing a little more complex. Just as you can be extroverted and be a withdrawn type such as 4, 5 or 9.

12 Meaning
The symbolism and meaning we give to something can change the energy. For example, yin/yang is a common symbol for the 9. But any type can appreciate the symbol. The question is why someone likes a symbol. If it is because a loved one liked it, it is very different that I relate to the yin/yang symbol.

Katherine's Interview with Dr. David Kamnizter on the Power of Instincts

 

 

 

Spiritual Paths throughout time have developed different ways of addressing and handling the human instinctual drives of survival, sexuality, and group affiliation.  Most Paths involve some “rules” or “experiments” in relation to money, diet, sexuality, lifestyle, fraternization, and service.

Various psychological schools posit different views on the relationship between human awareness, social standards, and instinctual drives.

For many human beings, their ENTIRE LIVES are largely about avoiding the domination of instinctual energies.

Manipulators of all kinds prey on humans who are in such a place.

What is a human being to do???

Personally, I am attracted to approaches that encourage and guide us to safely encounter, accept, own, forgive, and utilize the energy of … and transform our relationship with instinctual energies such that they ground and anchor our spirituality and humanity!

In short, it is time to “honor the belly”, and integrate its functioning with the mind and heart, ultimately demonstrating a seamless synthesis of human self-expression.

Join Dr. David in this powerful conversation with Katherine, as they explore the use of the Enneagram for just this purpose.

As in Part One of his interview with Katherine, Dr. David volunteers himself as a “guinea pig”, to bring the Teaching to Life!

Enjoy! (and make sure you listen to Episode 10 first)

©1995-2019 Katherine Chernick Fauvre

the Power of the Enneagram Tritype® for Transformation Katherine's Interview with Dr. David Kamintze

Imagine a code that can empower you to tap the deepest recesses of your psyche, in order to really see your blind spots … and discover your hidden strengths, all the while increasing compassion for yourself and others!

In fact, such a code already exists.  It is called the Enneagram (pronounced ANY-a-gram).  The key question … as usual … is … How do I ACCESS the code?

Katherine Fauvre is a wonderful Guide to the Enneagram.  Not only does she have a deep understanding of it, she is also an excellent Guide and coach and researcher.

She studied with most of the “greats” … and went on to uncover and update a previously esoteric understanding and application of the Enneagram she calles TriType.

In this episode, Dr. David and Katherine introduce you to the Enneagram as a tool for Transformation, and then go on to discuss the power of TriType.

As a special treat, Dr. David bares his soul and uses himself as a human “guinea pig” to bring it all to life!

Sit back … Relax … and Enjoy … the delightful Katherine Fauvre.

©1995-2019 Katherine Chernick Fauvre